Link source gone

October 12, 2013

One of the highest sources of sending folks here or to my website is now gone. Rick Ross’s website, which discussed abusive churches and cults, has been bought by some Casino advertisement. Having been through that similarly, I doubt it was on purpose. Years back I posted a “thread” about Randy and CiM on their site and linked it back. It had high search engine placement and sent many people to this blog or my website.

Posting this as news for any who care, as I doubt it really means much, I still maintain very high placement myself even with my new site. And most of my work in that area is done.

Though it may be really bad news for them as they worked with many bad churches and cults.

But my new website is doing well, and have even put up new pages, other topics besides Randy and CiM. Focusing on the original intent of the website; Christian doctrine and truth.

Randy Shankle’s Mom has died

September 10, 2013

Randy’s Mom died this summer.

Response to Truthguard

August 12, 2013

Just a short time ago, I discovered a couple of websites that uncovered abuse within Elder Rule. I created a new page on my website discussing this. In general they are good sites with some minor errors. I went into details about such on my new page.

I then proceeded to contact both websites and asked for there response to my new page. responded and I finally replied.

Usually I will take such back and forth responses here on a blog. But since its a matter of doctrine I decided to make a new page on it.

Church Government Part 5 – Eldership Rule Part 3

Video of Randy talking about me

July 31, 2013

I posted a video of Randy talking about me at his Domestic Dominion Conference. I am not sure if this is the same one I posted as audio years ago, but doubt it. I think its a similar message of him saying I am his nemesis.


July 3, 2013

Just so folks know, my forum is no longer operational. I see folks have been clicking on old links to it recently. But all the posts and threads relevant are now gone.

I originally made it a couple weeks before the popular main ex-CiM forum became live (which I did not make). But my forum never got used often, though there were some nice posts on it. I abandoned it, and tried a couple of other companies which had better quality, but those never got any or very few visitors. Then I rediscovered my original one was still being used so I maintained it. Eventually the forum rules, which are enforced by the company for free forums, deleted all the posts because they were not being added onto. It was serious bummer. But things had calmed down so I just let things be.

Recently I went back, because people have been going there, and found some commercial spam, went to delete it, and couldn’t log in. The free account was tied to an email address I now no longer have (same thing with my audio files). So now the silly forum is stuck in limbo, and it also is tied to the website I used to have as well.

The point here is just don’t visit the forum, there is nothing to read there except spam.

And since I mentioned it, the old ex-CiM forum which was quite popular, is still up, but the last post was made there 3 years ago (in about a week). There are no links to the thing anywhere I can find in the whole internet, and I don’t link to it either, tho I have many quotes from it here on this blog.

But this is all fine, as such discussions are not happening any more on that level.

Roger Grenier

June 29, 2013

Roger Grenier has a website up, showing and selling his cd’s. I found him through Michael Barrett’s website.



Listen and not download the Family Forum

June 28, 2013

I recently discovered you can listen to the Family Forum online without downloading it. Just hit the listen button. This is good news for those who want to hear it and don’t want to download it.