I am still catching up on past services. The Tuesday nite October meeting had nothing of consequence to report. I did record this morning service as well, and there are things to comment on from that, but that will be another post.
This service was the high point of the meetings. And thus is/was being offered on their website as a free download.
The meetings were about the Kingdom of God. Randy revealed what the kingdom of God really is. I have done this years ago on my website. He stated that the Kingdom of God is the government of God. I will be referring to pages on my website since this meeting deals with several subjects I already have addressed on my website years ago.
The main page on the Kingdom of God being the government on my website is here:
http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/kingdom.html
In the 1st clip Randy discusses the zoe life of Adam:
I have a page on my website that discusses this subject:
http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/redeem.html
In Adam’s original state before he sinned, what nature did he have? Did God’s Holiness abide in Adam’s being? This is another tough question. This is what I have found in God’s Word:
Rom 14: NKJV
14 I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
1 Tim 4: ESV
4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
What I see here then, is that nothing is evil and nothing is Holy, unless we do something about it. Therefore, Adam was neither unclean nor sanctified. He was in a neutral state given opportunity by God to choose. Adam had not eaten of the Tree of Life, in fact God chased him out of Eden before Adam could eat it.
Randy has no scriptural basis for saying that Adam had zoe. Some people speculate this, but it would be speculation only.
The next clip I am going to share deals with the emails I was getting a couple weeks ago which I did not discuss in detail here. It dealt with Jerry Collum’s death and some accusations about another former CiM elder. Thus I didn’t want to discuss such things publicly without the elder’s permission.
Here is a small part of one of those emails:
I believe the scripture “death where is your sting, grave where is your victory?” Christ removed the power of death on the cross. Jerry Collum didn’t die, he is ruling and reigning with Christ Jesus. Yes, his mortal body has faded, but so is yours and mine. Death is not some sort of consequence.
Randy did an excellent job making my point against this bad theology. And here I agree with him on. Here is the clip:
I have another clip that deals with this subject which I will be sharing further down.
This next clip, may be the one in which I may have the most invested in. Randy discusses how a person gets into the kingdom. Here is the clip:
Randy states that entry into the Kingdom requires death to self. This is not true. Death to self is required to gain a position of authority in the Kingdom. And I discuss this here:
http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/kingdom2.html
which is part 2 to the 1st link I gave above. I have developed these teachings over the years, before and after my time at CiM, they helped me with these. Randy is correct in showing that there is a difference between being saved and being in the kingdom. But his distinction is wrong. We know that there are and will be very few who die to self. If this is the case, why would New Jerusalem be so big? The size of it would be equal to the border of Canada and the US all the way down to Mexico. John says in Revelation the count is innumerable. We know the size of New Jerusalem, it is listed in scripture.
The link I gave above lists the scriptures of what keeps people out of the kingdom, which are:
1 Cor 6: LITV
9 Or do you not know that unjust ones will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be led astray, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals,
10 nor thieves, nor covetous ones, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor plunderers shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5: NKJV
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Eph 5: NKJV
3 But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; 4 neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. 5 For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.
Rev 21:
27: And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life.
Rev 22: NKJV
15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
Rev 21:27 above lists what is needed, having your name written in the book of Life. I make the distinction on the 1st link as such:
The Kingdom of God is the government of God. It’s a position of authority. When you are saved you become a citizen in the Kingdom, but are NOT yet in the government of the Kingdom.
If you are a US citizen, does that make you a governmental authority? No. But it does gain you access to certain rights and privileges.
It is my belief, that the main difference between being saved and being in the Kingdom will be being born again. I also believe this is what will keep some people from being raptured. I discuss the distinction between being saved and being born again here:
http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/bvb.html
While I may not have all the answers, there are certain errors Randy is perpetuating here which I am uncovering.
The next clip deals with another subject altogether. I had one clip awhile back where Randy admits to possibly disobeying civil authorities on a river if he believed God wanted him on the river. He would disobey such and risk dangers of floods for this on other people. God would not ask such a thing. Well this clip shows Randy disobeying the laws of driving. Listen here:
It is against the law to listen to anything on a headset while driving. Anyone in Marshall want to report him?
How often has Randy talked about the rebellious youth? Now Randy confesses to disobeying civil law himself. Perhaps he is not a man under authority after all.
This next clip is a very interesting one. Randy teaches me something in a verse I did not know about. One in which I use. I also was given understanding of it I had not seen before, but Randy did not see. Here is the clip:
Randy reveals that the End will come when the kingdom gospel will be preached by martyrs. I had believed and preached that simply preaching the Kingdom Gospel would accomplish this. However Randy is not correct in his understanding this. Once again, I believe we should be preaching dieing to self, but that is NOT the fulfillment of this scripture. Or else the End would have come, but scripture tells us these martyrs in Revelation. They will be literally martyred while standing and preaching for the Kingdom. Randy nor I are fulfilling this.
This last clip clears up the subject of death still having power, as well as dieing to self. Listen:
Randy goes onto describe that Adam was chased out of Eden so he would not eat of the Tree of Life. Randy then makes an excellent argument why death was not destroyed yet (on the cross), so that we can use it as a tool to die to self. This is a very interesting idea, I am not sure I would make a theological stance on it though. While I don’t have it on the clip, Randy makes the error of saying everyone who goes to heaven must die, including the 2 prophets from the Old Testament returning in the last days, they must die as well. However, as most people forget, many people will be raptured and changed in the last days. They will not be dieing.
The Gospel of The Kingdom is a very important message. One which everything is not yet revealed. However if we are careful, we can avoid certain mistakes and errors. Some which Randy has made.
I think the greatest error in these messages by Randy in these meetings, is that he thinks he has attained the Kingdom perfectly. His arrogance and pride about his administration is the worst of these meetings.
Update:
I forgot a subject I was going to discuss. Randy seems to be saying that teaching the Kingdom of God as in dieing to self will bring about the end. I think this is why those involved in the Latter Reign movement and the Manifest Sons of God movement are attracted to him. We have no power over the coming of the end. I have discussed this in length before. Scriptures show us how the latter rain will come. Read more about this here:
http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/2006/09/18/latter-rainkingdom-reign/
Randy has taught a pretrib rapture, as I discuss here:
http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/uncharted-territory/
A pretrib rapture goes against the idea of the Latter Reign promoted the way it does. Of coarse there will be a latter rain but it will not be by those of us following God now, and will be after the rapture.
This is thus evidence that Randy is indeed operating under the spirit of confusion. His own doctrines contradict themselves.