Maurice

December 21, 2008

Maurice:

As far as I know Maurice was not an elder at CiM but I think he operates as one now elsewhere.  His full real name I believe is Frank Henderson.  He contacted me and we have dialogued. I have a page about him.

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/excim-elder-info/maurice/

Actually I tried to contact Maurice several years ago, but never got a response. I believe he was doing an internet search on Randy and found my blog and website and contacted me. He barely remembered me, if at all. I think after we had talked he remembered me more.

Maurice had someone email him a few questions about when do we sound the alarm on Randy, when do we hold him accountable. This was part of his response, which he shared with me:

As far as sounding the alarm, IT’S already been done. Bruce Delay and Steve Lanich have done a great job doing that. Thousands have been and are being helped because of those guys. I tried to hit it from the other side.

I think it’s great he is coming forward publicly, more people need to. But we must remember what scripture says about this subject:

 

1 Tim 3:2  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 

 

Titus 1:
6  If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
7:  For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;

I have never called into question Randy’s doma giftings or calling, but his qualification as an elder/bishop. And I have also already discussed the difference between consequence vs condemnation here:

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/consequence-vs-condemnation/

This however does not negate other methods of reaching those who have been hurt by Randy or those who wanna reach Randy himself. Michael Barret does an very good job at this in a different manner. And I wish Maurice the best he can to help others whom gravitate to him and won’t come here.

 


The Living Dead

October 19, 2008

I am still catching up on past services. The Tuesday nite October meeting had nothing of consequence to report. I did record this morning service as well, and there are things to comment on from that, but that will be another post.

This service was the high point of the meetings. And thus is/was being offered on their website as a free download.

The meetings were about the Kingdom of God. Randy revealed what the kingdom of God really is. I have done this years ago on my website. He stated that the Kingdom of God is the government of God. I will be referring to pages on my website since this meeting deals with several subjects I already have addressed on my website years ago.

The main page on the Kingdom of God being the government on my website is here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/kingdom.html

In the 1st clip Randy discusses the zoe life of Adam:

I have a page on my website that discusses this subject:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/redeem.html

 

In Adam’s original state before he sinned, what nature did he have? Did God’s Holiness abide in Adam’s being? This is another tough question. This is what I have found in God’s Word:

Rom 14: NKJV
14 I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

1 Tim 4: ESV
4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.

What I see here then, is that nothing is evil and nothing is Holy, unless we do something about it. Therefore, Adam was neither unclean nor sanctified. He was in a neutral state given opportunity by God to choose. Adam had not eaten of the Tree of Life, in fact God chased him out of Eden before Adam could eat it.

Randy has no scriptural basis for saying that Adam had zoe. Some people speculate this, but it would be speculation only.

The next clip I am going to share deals with the emails I was getting a couple weeks ago which I did not discuss in detail here. It dealt with Jerry Collum’s death and some accusations about another former CiM elder. Thus I didn’t want to discuss such things publicly without the elder’s permission.

Here is a small part of one of those emails:

I believe the scripture “death where is your sting, grave where is your victory?”  Christ removed the power of death on the cross.  Jerry Collum didn’t die, he is ruling and reigning with Christ Jesus.  Yes, his mortal body has faded, but so is yours and mine.  Death is not some sort of consequence. 

Randy did an excellent job making my point against this bad theology. And here I agree with him on. Here is the clip:

I have another clip that deals with this subject which I will be sharing further down.

This next clip, may be the one in which I may have the most invested in. Randy discusses how a person gets into the kingdom. Here is the clip:

Randy states that entry into the Kingdom requires death to self. This is not true. Death to self is required to gain a position of authority in the Kingdom. And I discuss this here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/kingdom2.html

which is part 2 to the 1st link I gave above. I have developed these teachings over the years, before and after my time at CiM, they helped me with these. Randy is correct in showing that there is a difference between being saved and being in the kingdom. But his distinction is wrong. We know that there are and will be very few who die to self. If this is the case, why would New Jerusalem be so big? The size of it would be  equal to the border of Canada and the US all the way down to Mexico. John says in Revelation the count is innumerable. We know the size of New Jerusalem, it is listed in scripture.

The link I gave above lists the scriptures of what keeps people out of the kingdom, which are:

1 Cor 6: LITV
9  Or do you not know that unjust ones will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be led astray, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals,
10 nor thieves, nor covetous ones, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor plunderers shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Gal 5: NKJV
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. 

Eph 5: NKJV
3 But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; 4 neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. 5 For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.

Rev 21:
27: And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

Rev 22: NKJV
15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie. 

Rev 21:27 above lists what is needed, having your name written in the book of Life. I make the distinction on the 1st link as such:

The Kingdom of God is the government of God. It’s a position of authority. When you are saved you become a citizen in the Kingdom, but are NOT yet in the government of the Kingdom.

If you are a US citizen, does that make you a governmental authority? No. But it does gain you access to certain rights and privileges.

It is my belief, that the main difference between being saved and being in the Kingdom will be being born again. I also believe this is what will keep some people from being raptured. I discuss the distinction between being saved and being born again here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/bvb.html

While I may not have all the answers, there are certain errors Randy is perpetuating here which I am uncovering.

The next clip deals with another subject altogether. I had one clip awhile back where Randy admits to possibly disobeying civil authorities on a river if he believed God wanted him on the river. He would disobey such and risk dangers of floods for this on other people. God would not ask such a thing. Well this clip shows Randy disobeying the laws of driving. Listen here:

It is against the law to listen to anything on a headset while driving. Anyone in Marshall want to report him?

How often has Randy talked about the rebellious youth? Now Randy confesses to disobeying civil law himself. Perhaps he is not a man under authority after all.

This next clip is a very interesting one. Randy teaches me something in a verse I did not know about. One in which I use. I also was given understanding of it I had not seen before, but Randy did not see. Here is the clip:

Randy reveals that the End will come when the kingdom gospel will be preached by martyrs. I had believed and preached that simply preaching the Kingdom Gospel would accomplish this. However Randy is not correct in his understanding this. Once again, I believe we should be preaching dieing to self, but that is NOT the fulfillment of this scripture. Or else the End would have come, but scripture tells us these martyrs in Revelation. They will be literally martyred while standing and preaching for the Kingdom. Randy nor I are fulfilling this.

This last clip clears up the subject of death still having power, as well as dieing to self. Listen:

Randy goes onto describe that Adam was chased out of Eden so he would not eat of the Tree of Life. Randy then makes an excellent argument why death was not destroyed yet (on the cross), so that we can use it as a tool to die to self. This is a very interesting idea, I am not sure I would make a theological stance on it though. While I don’t have it on the clip, Randy makes the error of saying everyone who goes to heaven must die, including the 2 prophets from the Old Testament returning in the last days, they must die as well. However, as most people forget, many people will be raptured and changed in the last days. They will not be dieing.

The Gospel of The Kingdom is a very important message. One which everything is not yet revealed. However if we are careful, we can avoid certain mistakes and errors. Some which Randy has made.

I think the greatest error in these messages by Randy in these meetings, is that he thinks he has attained the Kingdom perfectly. His arrogance and pride about his administration is the worst of these meetings.

Update:

I forgot a subject I was going to discuss. Randy seems to be saying that teaching the Kingdom of God as in dieing to self will bring about the end. I think this is why those involved in the Latter Reign movement and the Manifest Sons of God movement are attracted to him. We have no power over the coming of the end. I have discussed this in length before. Scriptures show us how the latter rain will come. Read more about this here:

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/2006/09/18/latter-rainkingdom-reign/

Randy has taught a pretrib rapture, as I discuss here:

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/uncharted-territory/

A pretrib rapture goes against the idea of the Latter Reign promoted the way it does. Of coarse there will be a latter rain but it will not be by those of us following God now, and will be after the rapture.

This is thus evidence that Randy is indeed operating under the spirit of confusion. His own doctrines contradict themselves.


Blog 1 Year Old!

August 26, 2007

Yes, this blog is now 1 year old. In the last couple of weeks I been changing a few things, and today I changed the side bar as well. You now can search the blog with a search bar. I also added my static pages on the right as well as seen on the top. I tried changing the whole look of the blog, I did see a different design I liked but it had some errors on it so I am staying with this look/design.


Dream from the nite of Nov 25th, 06

November 26, 2006

I saw my dad flying a military jet. Others witnessed it. Suddenly, I was in some counseling session with my Dad and Mom, and some counselor. They were discussing the allegations about my dad by others, including myself, that my dad had some military connections that he refused to admit to publicly, and extreme skills. I was asked if I believed he was against the government. I told them I knew who and what my dad was, and was no longer obsessed with uncovering it and convincing others, but I didn’t know if he was working for or against the government. My only concern was why. Why did my dad possess such skill and abilities and let us live in such low economic position. Then I knew why because it was God ordained, for the development of me. And that if I was wealthy, chances would be small that I would have any interest in God’s Kingdom.

Suddenly I was taken to a church service in an old building. I didn’t really want to go, but folks with me, wanted me there. When I entered some woman was singing out of her bulletin. I went to get a copy of the bulletin. I was concerned about some spiritual disorder. I left the room and saw a bunch of chairs outside the “sanctuary” facing the opposite way of the sanctuary. These chairs were assigned to dissidents of the church. I got angry and went back in the sanctuary. I then began to publicly correct the church. There was no pastor, and the congregation was swayed by a couple of loud voices. One of them was Linda from CiM. Who also I think was the woman singing earlier from her bulletin.

I then said signs would follow my authority and correction and I began to fly. These loud persons then said it was of the devil. I spoke and tongues and glorified God, and asked if the devil would do that? They remained unconvinced. I made a prophecy, I don’t remember the prophecy. I stormed back out by the chairs outside the sanctuary. There I saw the former pastor. I then began to tear open the wall and he looked at me astonished but did not stop me. Behind the wall I found an old wooden chair, covered with cloth letters made by children spelling out a name; “Steve” was the 1st name but couldn’t read the last. The former pastor told me, that the pastor before him, had run off, away from his family and that his kids had made that chair for him and he left it behind. When he took over and remodeled the church, he left the chair behind the new wall and no one knew about it except him. This somehow was a direct fulfillment of my prophecy. I looked at him to follow me and stormed back into the sanctuary where the service was done and police were about taking statements. I think the loud voices had decided to report me to the civil authorities to try and have them stop me from returning.

I got the rooms attention and told them I had just found this chair behind the wall, and pointed to the former pastor and told them he had witnessed by discovery. They remained hostile to me. So I left and went outside. Outside I saw there was a fire in a building 2 buildings away. I think I then went on the roof to look around. I saw that by now the church was surrounded by fire on 3 sides and was closing in. I went back to the bottom entry point. And someone was trying to tear away the pillars holding up the church. I said people were in there. And the building began to collapse. I tried to hold it up but it came down, but it just fell to its side and didn’t break up, but was still in danger of the fire. I think I went inside to help but they didn’t want my help so I flew out the window. I began to fly over a river or lake, and was enjoying the scenery and animals, when all of a sudden something began hitting me, soft and mushy like. A bunch of geese were excreting their waste on me and then began to attack me. I woke up.