More Clarity

In one of Jerry Iverson’s email’s he stated:

Well, your days have come to an end. When the website changes this month, you wont be able to do that anymore. You won’t be able to sit and armchair quaterback the services.

I didn’t publish this threat because I didn’t take it seriously, but to be honest I wasn’t certain either way. I had mixed feelings about this. On one hand if they removed the services from the internet, then I would be happy because Randy would have less influence on people and God’s people would be safer, but I also didn’t think it would be that but an attempt to stop me, not everyone.

I had several ideas around any such threats, but I also acknowledged if they succeeded, that wouldn’t stop me, because I was doing this before they did broadcasts at all. The broadcasts while dangerous to people, was able to arm me with clips to expose them, and I have had ample opportunity to get many such clips since they have broadcasted.

While I wouldn’t be able to get new clips, I had gathered enough to expose them for who they really are. I also obtained more today, which gives even more clarity. I obtained these from a broadcast that was repeated from their May meetings this year. I also stumbled upon the broadcast today, surprisingly, despite that they don’t have their website updated for the broadcast schedule. But I don’t believe in coincidences either as the Lord had a peace on me through this whole thing. I had spoken to folks before, that any time the Lord wanted this ministry done, I would lay it down. Conveniently, today they broadcasted a service I wanted to see, I believe a week or 2 ago they had rebroadcasted them with Jerry Collum. If you go back you will hear clips from one of those services (a January meeting I believe) but I failed to keep my connection because I was not home and had it automated. I did obtain clips from Randy I used on the blog. This is a May, not a January meeting. I believe they had broadcasted 3 services with Jerry.

While I still believe any changes they may make to try and stop me is possible, I believe they can’t. But again I am not certain. Nor am I gonna panic, despite what they claim, this isn’t my only ministry nor is it necessary to have new clips, but they are helpful as well. Helpful enough I believe, that the Lord continues to allow me this opportunity.

And that is a major subject in today’s post. Is this blog of God or of satan? And is Randy representing God or satan? Jerry Iverson, Jeff Arrington, and Randy Shankle have stated with distinction that I am a direct tool of satan. I have been slow to say that what I am doing is God inspired, because I believe this ministry is simply one of a brother’s keeper, and have attempted with conscience effort to not make it appear I am sent by God to be Randy’s nemesis and the author of his demise and God’s hand of judgment. In other words I am not doing the opposite of Randy. He states he represents God and His divine will and I represent satan. I am NOT gonna say that its me who represents God and Randy is of the devil.

I will not make such extreme comments and positions. Randy was called by God, but fell in sin and is simply unqualified. If he is a false prophet because of that, perhaps. But just as I am slow to declare my doma gift(s)  publicly, I am equally slow to declare false doma’s.

There is a humbleness that must be maintained, and not a false humbleness for posterity’s sake, but because of the position I believe is truly the case. It’s not a Nicolaitin system God uses. God doesn’t have right handed men. We are a priesthood of believers, and anyone who sees Randy’s error can pick up this ministry, and if they do it rightly then God’s blessing will be on it, if not it will wither and die like ex-CiM forum.

In this 1st clip Randy is discussing reading from either my website or blog. I have 2 of these clips, the 1st is shorter, for those who want info as brief as possible, and the 2nd longer with the incident with the corresponding context:

longer:

I have a few clips where Randy has spoken about me publicly in the last 2 years or so. And he has called me a vessel of satan. You can go back and listen to those, and I also will soon have a page to categorize clips for easy access.

To be honest I am not certain which page he is talking about. It sounds like something I said, but have changed my Randy Shankle page a few times over the last few years. But it sounds like he is repeating my comment here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/error.html

This former man of God will not succeed and he knows it. The days of his glory are done. God used him, and may still use him, but not to the success he hoped for, or to the degree he was used in the past.

Now at an earlier time, perhaps 2 or 3 years ago, I may have worded it differently, or he may be quoting from me elsewhere. But Randy was motivated to say this from something Jerry Collum had spoken a half an hour earlier. Here is that clip:

Before, I continue with this point, let me comment on what Jerry Collum said in that clip. Jerry is claiming these prophecies are legit because they are in scripture, or just because satan said it, but is it satan saying these things to Randy and CiM? He then says that scripture is not for private interpretation, that it’s for “whomsoever will”. That the latter house will be greater. Many blessings of God are conditional. Otherwise this very same prophecy could be used on the Roman Catholic church or Lutheranism or anyone. And many believe Rome will be a part of the demonic end time religion!  Therefore their glory will not be greater.

Jerry then finishes about being a peace maker. And he failed to be balanced just as Randy has failed, and dissing that God wants us to use meekness to bring peace. Not the cold shoulder of resistance.

Anyways, Randy’s premise that I am of satan, is directly connected hand to hand with the idea that he represents God and that only those around him can be a tool of satan to bring about the devils will. Here is an older clip where Randy speaks this plainly:

And folks at CiM are lulled into believing that Randy brings God’s will for them. This also goes hand in hand with their prophecies. Especially since they said that all the prophecies will come true, in particular with Randy ministering with Jerry. I shared them before, and will share them again. But rather than keep reposting them, go back and find them until I post a new page with them categorized. (May and June 2008)

But in this broadcast, Randy says that Jerry’s words will come to pass. Listen here:

And what did Jerry prophesy in this meeting? And what did he say which may have been relevant to his dieing just a couple weeks later? Despite that Randy had previously said that death wouldn’t stop the perfect administration and the promises and prophecies thereof. And despite them trying to raise Jerry from the dead and failing.

In this 1st clip, Jerry goes into a few things. He starts about former shame, how it has no effect on the present. Then speaks about how the past won’t effect the 2 fold blessing coming and that Randy will be blessed 1st and then the congregation.

But again, Jerry is discounting the New Testament standard of a bishop, that he must be blameless. He also is discounting how they believe their errors are God ordained. I agree we as believers and even elders can sin, repent, and be forgiven. But Randy is and has yet to be fully repentive. And the failed promises and prophecies over CiM and Randy about their prosperity and other matters unfulfilled.

In this next clip Jerry Collum prophesies that they will rebuild the ruins:

In the next one, he talks about how they will repossess what was lost. And get what God promised them. He then says that these things will come now and not later.

This last clip is the toughest and most revealing. Jerry goes on to speak about Saul and David.

Did you hear how he says God took out Saul? And then says we don’t have to take anyone out because God will do it. He then demonstrates how Saul could be helpful if he repents before God takes him out. Then Jerry Collum says he has been both Saul and David. He then says, “God help me that I never ever ever go against the new Davids.” Then goes on to say that he would support them, encourage them or so on.

Is it coincidence that he died just 2 weeks after saying God took out Saul because he didn’t repent or support the David? Why did Jerry confront Randy and claim he was a man of war and wouldn’t build the temple and then turn around and say that Randy would get a double blessing and have a latter reign greater than the former? And why are so many prophecies not coming true? Especially those that continue to claim that wealth and blessings were imminent, starting before Jerry died?

I think these clips show greater clarity of what befell Jerry Collum. Again, I take the stance what Paul said, that we see darkly. But we do get a better picture when we examine these prophecies by Jerry and Randy.

And if their prophecies are failing to come to pass. And they are not speaking for God, does not that also show that their claiming I represent satan is wrong as well?

Randy and his administration are a danger. A physical danger to those around them. Especially to those that support him.

It is NOT getting to better, but worse. Disasters and problems are going to be more rampant. But more people will continue to visit this blog, more people will choose to not go to Marshall or will leave Marshall.

The visitors are increasing here. I am getting people commenting on this blog. I am getting emails from people. CiM administration names me publicly on numerous occasions. CiM is defensive, possibly changing their website to try and stop this ministry.

Where is the breathe of success? Where are the deaths and disasters? Fruit is being manifested more plainly and in more clarity.

Sauls need to repent before God intervenes.

Lastly here is the post I made in May, when Dwayne made comments about this service:

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/2008/05/18/may-18th-service/

No Broadcasted Service

Just got a report in at a late hour, the entire city had a blackout. Thus there was no broadcasted service.

Still very interested in seeing what will happen next week.

Corrections

I need to make some corrections because of Jerry Iverson. In both directions actually. And I will start with myself. Jerry claims he never made any comments on Michael Barret’s website and didn’t even know he had a guest book. To be honest and fair it may not have been Jerry Iverson. But it was someone named Jerry, and happened in the same time Jerry Iverson made comments here. What’s the chances of 2 Jerry’s making 2 negative comments at the same time? Well since it is a chance that it was a different Jerry I must give that a possibility. 

Next I will deal with a statement made by Jerry:

You have brought your own private interpretation to things that Randy has said and now that they didn’t happen you want to brand him as a false prophet.  Was he speaking in faith or did he actually say “thus sayeththe Lord”?  What prophecy concerning Jerry Collum?  All Randy shared publicly was that he was what he was standing in faith for. 

It is my guess that this was the administration’s defence and was told to the congregation or in meetings afterwards. But maybe not, maybe Jerry is trying to defend them on his own. But I challenge folks to go back and listen to those clips yourselves and see if it was given as prophecies or not. However, today, CiM rebroadcast a service from January when Jerry Collum spoke. I went to work but set up my computer to record it. Unfortunately my internet connection was lost and I didn’t get very much and none of Jerry speaking at all. However I did get some statement by Randy. And these statements totally show that he and they believed that God said that the former and latter would minister together. And that Jerry and Randy would have a great year of 2008 together. One such prophecy was given by Jerry’s son in fact.

In this 1st clip you will hear the former and latter reign discussed, and then Randy says HE said HE will bring that together. Who is that He? It’s Jesus, and Randy says Jesus says He will do this.

This next clip is even more direct. Randy says its the voice from the Lord. That voice says they are in a coarse together and then speaks of Jeff Collum’s prophecy that 2008 would be a great year for Randy and Jerry.

This next clip is Randy giving a tongue, and an unknown person giving the interpretation, speaking for God about the latter and former reign starting now (in January).

This next clip has Randy speaking about God giving him prophecy about the former and latter through him turning on his PDA.

This last clip is a very interesting clip. Randy often puts his foot in his mouth, and maybe that’s why he doesn’t want me recording his services any more and why he is changing his website. Anyways in this next one, Randy calls for all words spoken to be of God, and then proclaims that all these words will come true and not fail.

So yeah, Jerry, according to your definition, Randy is a false prophet. I have shown thru more than 2 or 3 clips that these words were not statements of faith but prophecies. Prophecies Randy gave or accepted. Now I am not claiming Randy is a false prophet. Though he may be one. But he is in serious error and speaks for God erroneously.

A Call for Witnesses and Evidence

The Lord is really putting the heat on the CiM administration, they are on the defence! But I don’t want it to stop until the Lord empties CiM or Randy repents fully and sits down. Therefore, I am putting out a call for anyone who is a witness or has evidence of wrong doings by Randy Shankle or the CiM administration to contact me. You can and will remain anonymous if you wish. I will honor your wishes in this matter, as I have done with those who have contacted me in the past. Some who have or had family or friends still at CiM or connections with churches who work with CiM.

You can contact me here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/contact.html

I would really like to get any media I could publish: letters, emails, pictures, audio, video, anything to expose the wrongs they have done. I will even censor parts if need be to keep people anonymous.

Folks can also leave their stories at my forum:

http://pub42.bravenet.com/forum/3600302985

Or even comments on this blog. But stories may be more fitting for the forum, or ask me which is best.

For those concerned about me knowing who you are, you can remain anonymous with me as well. I have no method of determining who my visitors are on this blog. To learn about WordPress’s privacy policy read here:

http://wordpress.org/about/privacy/

WordPress is the owner of this blog and the server host I believe. I do not have any connections with these people personally, I am just 1 of thousands who use their free service.

However my website www.kingdom-gospel.com is another matter. I own the website but do not host it. My website has a tool which uses cookies to know about visitors. What are cookies? You learn more about them here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_cookie

Cookies are a standard on many websites. However don’t be alarmed. While cookies can give me info about the visitors on my website, that info is limited. Cookies cannot give me names, addresses, or even email addresses. It can give me the city location however, and IP address. What is an IP address? Read more here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address

I also can get your ISP, Internet Service Provider. The ISP can give out information about the people behind the IP address to law enforcement agencies and so on, but protect your identity because we are their customers. Therfore they won’t tell any Joe Schmoe who you are, not even webmasters like me. You are paying them. Not me.

The cookies tell me how you came to my website such as from Google, or even from this blog. It can tell me relatively how long you were there, which pages you viewed, and how many times you visited it if you haven’t erased your cookies.

I erase my cookies often, not necessarily for privacy concerns, but sometimes for that, but to keep my computer from getting full of them. You can erase them in Internet Explorer like this:

Go to Tools, Internet Options, in the 1st page which should be under the General Tab, click the button: Delete Cookies

If you don’t want me or any other website having access to even this limited info about your visit, you can disable cookies. However many websites require them even to use their website! I do not require them at all. So you can view my website in its entirety without them on. However you might not be able to use the Bible tools you find on my pages. To disable cookies in Internet explorer do this:

Tools, Internet Options, go to the 3rd tab named Privacy, Slide the bar up or down to the security level you desire or click on the button named Advanced and override cookie handling there by clicking on block cookies.

If you block your cookies, I won’t know anything about your visit to my website.

I am a christian, I serve the Lord, I am not out to uncover who visitors are. How did I know who Jerry Iverson was? Because he used his email address with most of his name as part of his address when he posted here and emailed me. But if not all his name, how did I know his full name if we never met? Because I sent his emails to someone who does know him! And they told me who he was. Why did I publicly uncover him? Because he enables Randy’s wrong doing, and was trying to help Randy and CiM without their permission. But most importantly, I believe that uncovering him publicly would set events into motion which would probably open his eyes to the error and abuse of the CiM administration.

I haven’t done this to those who know Randy is wrong and want him to stop hurting people and churches. And I won’t. Except to those who already have discussed these things publicly like on the old forum I discuss elsewhere and have made themselves publicly known.

I also had discovered that Jerry had recently left a negative message on Michael Barret’s guest book on City Church’s website. I let them know, and they have removed it.

So please, if you have any info about the wrongs done by CiM or Randy please let me know.

I also believe that this endeavor, will more than likely make the administration at CiM very nervous, and suspect spies in their church. They will probably have meetings about this and put pressure on the people to be tight lipped to their friends and family who are not in CiM. This will backfire on the administration, as their further defence will simply make people more upset with them and open more eyes to the administrations errors.

Cults tend to try and control their flock as well as information like Communism does.