Possible last comments on services

October 28, 2008

I was going to be silent about what is occurring but after meditating on it, I realize there is no reason to be silent.

The Church in Marshall has finally banned my access to their website. I was watching the service on Sunday when they banned me. I was able to get back on, despite their bans and recorded much of the service, of which I will be commenting on and have clips of below.

I have maintained for years, that when the time comes that if it will take blood sweat and tears to continue, then I will re-evaluate where God wants me with this. I already had plans to reorganize the content I already have, by making an archive page of all the clips I have and reorganizing past posts of interest and importance.

But let me make it clear, I can continue to watch and record the services and make comments and clips available again if necessary. And for those who need this contact me and let me know. If enough people desire it, I will put it before the Lord again. Contact me here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/contact.html

It is interesting that they feel the need to ban me, what threat am I if they are doing God’s work, won’t the gates of hell not prevail against them? They remain secretive of some of their inner dealings, but I want to make everything as possible available in the light here, including my own failures. Thus when someone wanted to make a blog to uncover me in revenge of me uncovering Randy and CiM, it wasn’t a threat because I have already spoken publicly my failures at and with CiM and elsewhere in my life.

As I stated before, I have done this before there was CiM internet broadcasts, and can continue to do so. I have done this without weekly commentary on what they are doing, and can continue to do that again also. Besides the issues with Randy and CiM are mostly repeating. As you will see on the clips I have from Sunday below. Yes, there will be new stuff like the fiasco about the Daughters of Zelophehad. But as I maintained then as I maintain now, such things are minor since Randy is disqualified as an elder anyways. I know others may disagree and uncovering such issues are important. And if so, please contact me and let me know. Others have dropped the ball, and I don’t want to do that if I need to continue on that front. But I believe at this time, that change is desired by God on these matters. Majoring on the minors is not supposed to be my goal. And as I addressed before as well, that Bruce Delay stated uncovering Randy’s doctrinal errors could be a valid work. Well I think I have done enough of that, but again, contact me if you think more needs to be done. Here is Bruce’s comment:

I have not heard from the Lord regarding specifics on how to proceed from here – other than a couple of general things…You could go back thru all the teachings and prophecies and debunk each one – teachings with scripture, and prophecies with the lack of actual fulfillment. But that’s a full-time endeavor!

And Bruce was right, it did take some time and effort. Not alot of time, but some, and not a lot of effort, but again some. It was fairly easy when God’s hand was on it. And lately it has been more difficult, a sign His hand may have been moving.

CiM may be on a path of self destruction, I am not sure. Judgment is there, and we have seen some of it; deaths and other disasters and such. I also believe we are entering further into the end time events, and judgment begins in the House of God 1st. And it is interesting that Randy prophesied the opposite concerning CiM, he may have been repeating someone else’s prophecy. Here is the clip from last Sunday:

Randy says the church won’t sink like the Titanic. I am not sure if this blog has caused the military nature of last Sunday’s service, others who listen to the clips here may be making influence as well.

If things go as they have been, and his/their prophecies are wrong, is the reverse of this “word” true? Is CiM about to sink?

But the service gave great evidence once again what Randy’s intent and true motives are, and thus also that of the administration and the rest of the church: ruling over others, i.e. authority.

Most of the service was “worship” and under the umbrella of “prophetic”. Here is from near the beginning and shows the militaristic nature they had:

That clip manifests their impure motives. While God will indeed have those of us who overcome rule in the Kingdom, that time has not yet come. When it comes, the time to repent after we have died and been judged cannot occur:

Rev 22:11: He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

This is why we will rule, because the carnal christians will not be able to rule themselves with any further repentance. But today is not that time. Instead of lusting to drive out and rule, we should be encouraging others to overcome, so they don’t have to be ruled!

The theme continued through the music time. Here is the next clip of such:

In that clip Jeff goes on to say that God is giving them new ground to possess. But to show that Randy was backing this up, you can hear Randy sing the same type of message:

Perhaps some will think I am jumping to conclusions here, and they are not speaking about ruling over others. Okay, let me give you a clip where it is evident:

Here they are reading from Psalms 2, and prophesying that they represent God’s authority, are God’s sons, and will rule over the heathen. Once again, we may rule the heathen, but today is NOT that day, and that is not something to rejoice over, as I have stated before, it is NOT God’s way. I go into detail with many clips showing their lust for power and authority here:

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/todays-service/

And in a more recent post discuss it again, when Randy threatened to destroy 50 African churches:

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/the-1st-2-october-meetings/

This is why I say I am just repeating what has already been said. I just keep getting more and more evidence for it, but probably have enough now.

And here is another song by Randy singing about his desire for this authority, from last Sunday:

The next clip uncovers their belief that Marshall is the center of God’s will. This clip is from Jeff speaking while others are singing, and may be a little hard to hear him. Here is the clip:

In my last clip, it is an interesting one, goes into a subject I just addressed.  Just a week ago I shared a clip, (which was discussed also over a year ago or so) where they condemn the freedom people have when leaving CiM. In fact here is that clip:

Well in this next clip, Randy discusses last Sunday the freedom he wants the people in CiM to have in following God. Here is the new clip:

You see they are hypocrites. It’s okay to be free and be judgmental and give the cold shoulder of resistance to those who think Randy or CiM have erred, but its a sin to walk away from the abuse.

So when they prophesied to drive out the inhabitants in song, was this in connection to banning me from their website? Is it coincidence that the service was so militaristic when they banned me? Coincidence? No. Connected? Maybe.

This service reminded me of the demonic experience I had when I was at the monastery and was going to be a monk. I was taking communion with the monks when I spilled some of the wine. Catholics believe that the wine is actually Jesus’ blood. Therefore when I spilled the wine even by accident I was spilling blood in their eyes. I could feel the hatred and anger of the religious spirits when I did that in the monastery. That feeling is the same I got when I listened to CiM’s worship music this last Sunday. Listen to the clips yourself and see if you don’t feel the “spookiness” of it. It’s demonic in influence.


Obama’s own running mate say’s Obama will cause Crisis

October 25, 2008

Democrat vice presidential candidate Joe Biden on Sunday guaranteed that if Barack Obama is elected president, there will be an international crisis within six months.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/10/20/biden-guarantees-international-crisis-six-months-if-obama-wins

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/biden-to-suppor.html

Why would Obama’s own Vice Presidential candidate say such a thing? I believe that to get American’s to follow the UN and similar plans they must make small steps to prepare the people. As I stated here:

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/obama/

… I believe Obama will bring about the war that has been prophesied about. But they must woo their own voters to want this. This is I believe the preparations for such a thing.

Personally I think the crisis is going to be the rapture, and Obama will pull all the troops back to the US when it occurs. But shortly after that America will be attacked.

I discuss this in more detail here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/prophecy.html

and part 2 here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/prophecy2.html

These are not “thus saith the Lord”’s, but I have enough conviction by the Spirit, that I have to speak up on this.


Oct 19th Service

October 21, 2008

I am done going over the October meetings recordings I had. And I missed only 1 or 2. The last one, Wednesday nite, was nothing of significance. It was short and Randy summed up the meetings and spoke how the morning meeting was available for download, and gave some other announcements.

By the way, the reason the last post is named The Living Dead, is because that is what Randy named that message, Wednesday morning.

Surprising Randy was not there for this last Sunday service, and the previous week service had been cancelled, having CiM cancel 2 Sunday services in a row, which I thought quite remarkable.

Jeff and Dwayne ministered, with Jeff taking about 2/3rd’s of the service. There isn’t a lot to comment on. But the 1st clip brings evidence of something I have suspected for awhile. I think many people, not just those in the congregation, but even Jeff, have had inner doubts about Randy. And this is why Jeff has spoken about validation before. He wouldn’t need validation if he didn’t have doubts. And in this 1st clip he speaks about validation again:

This is why there is a clip I have shared several times earlier where Randy speaks about controlling those surrounding him. They porter in the doubts. I guess I will share it again, here it is:

But back to Jeff’s comment, why would Jeff pray for validation? Because as I have stated before it is their wish to have rulership. Authority won’t come unless others submit, and unless they plan on ruling like the Catholic church in the dark ages, they need validation to show they represent God.

I don’t know which reason has the stronger pull on Jeff. Doubts about Randy, or the desire to rule over others. But both would have the desire for validation. I don’t know how he sees validation from these meetings, unless he thinks more revelation is the seal he speaks about. But nothing new was preached. Perhaps a bit more about the intricacies about the government of God, but even I have preached that the Kingdom of God is the government of God. But I am not validated in their eyes. Revelation is not validation nor are miracles.

The whole concept of validation is the wrong idea of how God operates. Either we operate by faith, which requires no manifest validation to the eyes or ears, nor is it used by God in His authority, but is used in the authority of the world system.

He then ends in this clip by speaking once again that the will of God is being in Marshall. Showing once again their desire for rule and authority thinking that’s how God operates. God’s will does not equate to being in the Church in Marshall. This does not mean God hasn’t sent some to go there. He sent me, but His will was not for me to stay, but to be trained in God’s word and ways. They believe by leaving CiM you are leaving God’s will. This is made more apparent in the next clip:

This is later in his message and is referring to what he said in the 1st clip. He speaks to the people who raised their hands saying they were in God’s will for being at CiM. Then he disrespects those who left saying they are not in God’s government and will, but are in self government.

Such arrogance, how can they dictate what God’s will is for everyone? Unless they actually believe that CiM is the authority of God. And thus needs validation! And that God’s will is everyone either be at CiM or be under CiM authority.

This is why Jeff goes through this list of what they are free from when people leave CiM. Those things he lists, he believes is God’s will and is found at CiM. Here is his list: Restraint, authority, commandments, statutes, fear of the Lord,  judgment, law, testimony. These are the manifest will of God for everyone at CiM.

This is why there is death and tragedy at CiM. The arrogance is a stink in God’s face.

Interesting enough he claims that those who leave, lose God’s word and truth. If that’s the case, why did I have a webpage on the government of God, years before this October meeting?

Yeah, it’s true some people have left CiM, and have left God. I know some, I have seen some at the ex-CiM members forum. I cannot determine what the percentage is of those that leave offended and fall after leaving CiM, but for them to assume that this is a majority and the rule is ludicrous. And in fact I give them this word from God concerning those who have been offended and have fallen:

Math:18:6: But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

God’s judgment is gonna be on those at CiM who have caused these people to leave the faith. Judgement is not at the door at CiM, judgment is in the house at CiM. That’s why there is death and tragedy connected with CiM.


The Living Dead

October 19, 2008

I am still catching up on past services. The Tuesday nite October meeting had nothing of consequence to report. I did record this morning service as well, and there are things to comment on from that, but that will be another post.

This service was the high point of the meetings. And thus is/was being offered on their website as a free download.

The meetings were about the Kingdom of God. Randy revealed what the kingdom of God really is. I have done this years ago on my website. He stated that the Kingdom of God is the government of God. I will be referring to pages on my website since this meeting deals with several subjects I already have addressed on my website years ago.

The main page on the Kingdom of God being the government on my website is here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/kingdom.html

In the 1st clip Randy discusses the zoe life of Adam:

I have a page on my website that discusses this subject:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/redeem.html

 

In Adam’s original state before he sinned, what nature did he have? Did God’s Holiness abide in Adam’s being? This is another tough question. This is what I have found in God’s Word:

Rom 14: NKJV
14 I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

1 Tim 4: ESV
4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.

What I see here then, is that nothing is evil and nothing is Holy, unless we do something about it. Therefore, Adam was neither unclean nor sanctified. He was in a neutral state given opportunity by God to choose. Adam had not eaten of the Tree of Life, in fact God chased him out of Eden before Adam could eat it.

Randy has no scriptural basis for saying that Adam had zoe. Some people speculate this, but it would be speculation only.

The next clip I am going to share deals with the emails I was getting a couple weeks ago which I did not discuss in detail here. It dealt with Jerry Collum’s death and some accusations about another former CiM elder. Thus I didn’t want to discuss such things publicly without the elder’s permission.

Here is a small part of one of those emails:

I believe the scripture “death where is your sting, grave where is your victory?”  Christ removed the power of death on the cross.  Jerry Collum didn’t die, he is ruling and reigning with Christ Jesus.  Yes, his mortal body has faded, but so is yours and mine.  Death is not some sort of consequence. 

Randy did an excellent job making my point against this bad theology. And here I agree with him on. Here is the clip:

I have another clip that deals with this subject which I will be sharing further down.

This next clip, may be the one in which I may have the most invested in. Randy discusses how a person gets into the kingdom. Here is the clip:

Randy states that entry into the Kingdom requires death to self. This is not true. Death to self is required to gain a position of authority in the Kingdom. And I discuss this here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/kingdom2.html

which is part 2 to the 1st link I gave above. I have developed these teachings over the years, before and after my time at CiM, they helped me with these. Randy is correct in showing that there is a difference between being saved and being in the kingdom. But his distinction is wrong. We know that there are and will be very few who die to self. If this is the case, why would New Jerusalem be so big? The size of it would be  equal to the border of Canada and the US all the way down to Mexico. John says in Revelation the count is innumerable. We know the size of New Jerusalem, it is listed in scripture.

The link I gave above lists the scriptures of what keeps people out of the kingdom, which are:

1 Cor 6: LITV
9  Or do you not know that unjust ones will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be led astray, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals,
10 nor thieves, nor covetous ones, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor plunderers shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Gal 5: NKJV
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. 

Eph 5: NKJV
3 But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; 4 neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. 5 For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.

Rev 21:
27: And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

Rev 22: NKJV
15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie. 

Rev 21:27 above lists what is needed, having your name written in the book of Life. I make the distinction on the 1st link as such:

The Kingdom of God is the government of God. It’s a position of authority. When you are saved you become a citizen in the Kingdom, but are NOT yet in the government of the Kingdom.

If you are a US citizen, does that make you a governmental authority? No. But it does gain you access to certain rights and privileges.

It is my belief, that the main difference between being saved and being in the Kingdom will be being born again. I also believe this is what will keep some people from being raptured. I discuss the distinction between being saved and being born again here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/bvb.html

While I may not have all the answers, there are certain errors Randy is perpetuating here which I am uncovering.

The next clip deals with another subject altogether. I had one clip awhile back where Randy admits to possibly disobeying civil authorities on a river if he believed God wanted him on the river. He would disobey such and risk dangers of floods for this on other people. God would not ask such a thing. Well this clip shows Randy disobeying the laws of driving. Listen here:

It is against the law to listen to anything on a headset while driving. Anyone in Marshall want to report him?

How often has Randy talked about the rebellious youth? Now Randy confesses to disobeying civil law himself. Perhaps he is not a man under authority after all.

This next clip is a very interesting one. Randy teaches me something in a verse I did not know about. One in which I use. I also was given understanding of it I had not seen before, but Randy did not see. Here is the clip:

Randy reveals that the End will come when the kingdom gospel will be preached by martyrs. I had believed and preached that simply preaching the Kingdom Gospel would accomplish this. However Randy is not correct in his understanding this. Once again, I believe we should be preaching dieing to self, but that is NOT the fulfillment of this scripture. Or else the End would have come, but scripture tells us these martyrs in Revelation. They will be literally martyred while standing and preaching for the Kingdom. Randy nor I are fulfilling this.

This last clip clears up the subject of death still having power, as well as dieing to self. Listen:

Randy goes onto describe that Adam was chased out of Eden so he would not eat of the Tree of Life. Randy then makes an excellent argument why death was not destroyed yet (on the cross), so that we can use it as a tool to die to self. This is a very interesting idea, I am not sure I would make a theological stance on it though. While I don’t have it on the clip, Randy makes the error of saying everyone who goes to heaven must die, including the 2 prophets from the Old Testament returning in the last days, they must die as well. However, as most people forget, many people will be raptured and changed in the last days. They will not be dieing.

The Gospel of The Kingdom is a very important message. One which everything is not yet revealed. However if we are careful, we can avoid certain mistakes and errors. Some which Randy has made.

I think the greatest error in these messages by Randy in these meetings, is that he thinks he has attained the Kingdom perfectly. His arrogance and pride about his administration is the worst of these meetings.

Update:

I forgot a subject I was going to discuss. Randy seems to be saying that teaching the Kingdom of God as in dieing to self will bring about the end. I think this is why those involved in the Latter Reign movement and the Manifest Sons of God movement are attracted to him. We have no power over the coming of the end. I have discussed this in length before. Scriptures show us how the latter rain will come. Read more about this here:

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/2006/09/18/latter-rainkingdom-reign/

Randy has taught a pretrib rapture, as I discuss here:

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/uncharted-territory/

A pretrib rapture goes against the idea of the Latter Reign promoted the way it does. Of coarse there will be a latter rain but it will not be by those of us following God now, and will be after the rapture.

This is thus evidence that Randy is indeed operating under the spirit of confusion. His own doctrines contradict themselves.