Was the win against the immigration bill good?

Yep, it sure was good, but I don’t think it was God. Don’t get me wrong, I do believe God wants sovereign nations, but the way of the victory was not God’s way.

Some may think that my “doom and gloom” look at America and it’s future has failed with this victory. Absolutely not. If you read my prophecy pages on my website (see below)

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/prophecy.html

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/prophecy2.html

…you will see that I predict a civil war and or war against the USA by other nations. This very “victory” plays into it.

The liberals are absolutely furious at this loss. Some are so angry they are discussing removing the freedoms of conservative talk radio which they blame for making this bill fail. This anger is getting worse between the liberals and conservatives, and once the salt which preserves peace is gone, whamo - civil war. That salt is the church, that removal is the rapture. Actually only half the church will get raptured, see here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/prepare.html

I am of the opinion that this hatred and anger is purposefuly being driven by powers that be to bring about such a war. Note opinion, not fact or prophecy (though the charisma of prophecy may play a part). These powers may be demonic only, or persons of power in politics or in secret groups. And that war is desired by such powers to bring about the end of national sovereignty or to bring in a police state or something of this nature (enter the anti-christ).

So why is this victory not of God? Because our warfare is not by carnal means:

2 Cor:10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)

Some may say that Paul used carnal methods in trying to reach leaders by using his Roman citizenship. Perhaps, but not for political gain or political favor, but for the gospel of salvation to be preached.

Did we see Paul use his Roman citizenship to allow christian prayer to become legal? No! Did he do it to preach Jesus Christ to the politicians? Yes!

I see 2 kinds of christians using and enjoying this kind of carnal method.

1. Those christians who live on the wrong side of Jordan. See here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/two.html

2. Those christains who have tasted the waters of Jordan but are Sons of Thunder. See here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/thunder.html

I also go into detail why we shouldn’t pick up this sword here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/sword.html

There are alot of old school conservatives out there. Folks who believe in sovereignty, gun rights, and so on. But may be liberal on other issues, such as abortion, sexual lifestyles and so on.

My dad is one. He is a Vietnam Vet and a Lutheran. He’d pick up his gun and defend this land even though he’s 60 something. There’s alot of these kind of folks out there, who may or may not go to church, are not very Biblical christians, but love their nation.

But I also know good men of God, filled with the Holy Ghost who are politicaly active and stir folks up to get political changes. I did this at 1st. When George Bush ran for office the 1st time (not Senior Mr. Bush), I voted for him, only because I wanted to protect gun rights as an American citizen. That was the only issue I thought I could stand on, since it really did not touch morality. Moral issues should be stood on through Christ. But the Bible doesn’t advocate the right to bear arms, the Constitution of the USA does.

You know I may take such a stance again, but I doubt it. Cause the 2nd time Bush was up for election I voted 3rd party. Voting for Bush I believe was putting a vote for a wolf in sheeps clothing. Of which I would rather not discuss here, as I have no bonafide evidence, so I just stating why I didn’t vote for him again.

But you see, I am not going to vote to push a moral stance based on politics. It’s putting trust in Big Brother instead of God.

But isn’t immigration like gun rights? Maybe, but I doubt it. The whole immigration problem I see is an act by the powers that be (discussed above) to bring about a one world government, which the Bible shows is demonic, the anti-christ.

If the governments were not fallen or corrupt, maybe it could be an issue like gun rights. But I see immigration as a more direct tool to get an objective done. While that may also be a case in fire arms, this is perhaps less direct, but gun rights is a clear issue of the constitution.

It doesn’t matter though, because gun rights is not so big to me any more anyways. Especially since I am preaching not to resist the coming of Babylon:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/gov2.html

Which is the very reason for the right to bear arms. Or at least a major reason. But am not going to pursue that any further here.

You see doing something good isn’t always Godly. Even if it’s what God wants. Because it has to be done God’s way!

Math 7:
21: Not every one that says unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22: Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works?
23: And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.

That scripture shows us folks who do works God wants, good works, yet Jesus will say He will not know them, because they did not do it God’s way!

By the way, I am not discussing the loss of salvation. This is further explained here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/kingdom.html

Can soul defeat soul? That’s another look at this problem. Victory is in the spirit. What victory is there in this bill falling through? Was that victory a spiritual victory, or was it by the hand of man?

These kind of victories are only adding fuel of hatred against us. We are not winning our enemies to God this way. You gonna throw some folks in hell to save your border? Only temporarily!

Jesus is gonna get this world back for us. Right now satan is the god of this world.

2Cor:4:4: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Sunday Jun 17th Randy’s message w/ canoe trip

I really didn’t want to comment on this message by Randy, but someone wrote to me and asked if it was ok that Randy took that canoe trip with those women. Here was my response:

 I know Randy has been guilty in the past of taking away a husband’s headship in households and even has caused divorces! But I do not know if he crossed this line on this canoe trip. To me it sounds like he did it okay.

The issue for me on this matter is complicated. Some may say Randy has repented of such abuses of the past and corrected his behavior and ministry from such previous errors. This may or may not be true. I discuss such things on my blog (not my website). I lean towards that he has corrected much of his previous errors, however many folks thinks that if this is the case, and then he is qualified to continue to minister as an elder, but this is not scriptural nor true. He has not went to the people he has harmed and attempted to make things right. He has not submitted to other men of God when they brought correction, and I am quite certain he has not taken any time away from his eldership.

This may or may not be important to you or appear relative to your question. But in the long run it does. Because he is unqualified as an elder to take these women on a canoe trip whether or not he did it correctly this time or not. Even if he has repented, I would never trust my wife with him again, unless he fully repented and went thru the procedure I discussed above. And then I would be reluctant and have to pray about it.

Did he behave himself on this last trip? Probably. Did he minister correctly? Perhaps, but am less sure because of witnesses of the horrible things he has done to marriages from other accounts. Should he have done this trip at all? Absolutely not, because Randy shouldn’t even be an elder.

Now he could have done the trip as a doma brother. As an apostle or prophet even. He could prophesy into women’s lives, but he could not bishop them, lead them or instruct them in any personal decision making unless its a basic matter in the Bible anyone can do, like, telling the women to pray and read the Bible. And he specifically stated that he did do bishoping on that trip and that every woman agreed to his counsel.

I don’t know if I am helping. I do want to say, that I think such a canoe trip from an elder with women would be okay. If the elder had his wife along and another man to help witness that things stayed ok. But it would have to be a qualified elder, whom is trustworthy.

Immigration

I don’t do this enough, and it’s one of the reasons I decided to have a blog. Is to comment on current events.

I am going to discuss immigration.

Some folks I suppose are quick to dismiss opponents of illegal immigrants and excessive immigration because they don’t have any personal connections to the issue. Not me.

My wife is from another country. And within a short period of time I began telling my friends and coworkers that I thought immigration laws were wrong. My wife should NOT have the right to bring any of her family to America. I married her, not her mother or sister and so on. If my wife decided to marry an American then she should count the cost of such a relationship. And should all people who do.

I have heard that they are trying to change the laws on this because a person can bring siblings and parents. They want to make it children only and that’s good to me.

You see the way it is now, there is practically no stopping the immigrants from coming by their own choice. My wife can bring her sister. Her sister can bring her daughter and husband. When the brother-in-law gets here, he can bring his parents and siblings, and then it escalates!

I live in Wisconsin, a big Catholic state. And the catholics are big on allowing immigration. Thinking that promoting America’s great opportunities and social goodness is something christians should allow all to enjoy.

No. The bible is against 1 world government. Even in the millennial reign of Christ there will be countries. God created a law, reap what you sow. If other nations have deteriorated conditions, then they need to reap what they have sown. But doesn’t the Lord believe in mercy? Personal mercy yes. If a person repents and turns to God, the Bible promises that His seed will not beg for bread:

Psalms 37:25  I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.

God will take care of His own. He does not want us relying on Egypt for help (except for short brief ordained seasons in certain circumstances).

The very idea of immigrants flooding our nation will eventually make our nation like the other nations! And then there won’t be any greatness to enjoy.

I went to Russia there I found many Russians love American products, but yet they hate America. You can’t have it both ways! To have the great things of America, you cannot change America. The immigrants and the liberals who support them promote the taking away of christianity, morality, and the foundations of our nation.

While I believe certain conspiratorial elements are indeed planning this, the pawns on the board are not. They lust after their desires and are unaware that they are tools of a greater force. Whether that force is a conspiracy of elite or satan himself does not matter.

But you know what? This warning or plea of mine is too late. We have crossed the point of no return. Despite what some fundamentalist christians are trying to do.

In their scamper to try and protect that goodness, they ignore the prophetic plan of God, as well as cross the boundaries of certain Godly and Biblical principles.

I discuss such things here:

Empowering Big Brother:

Putting your trust in Big Government

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/brother.html

Should we pick up the sword?

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/sword.html

Are You a Son of Thunder?

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/thunder.html

Are the Governments Corrupted?

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/government.html

Prepare for the Yoke:

Babylon’s Authority is Ordained to Come

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/gov2.html

While I may be shouting out for the halt of immigration, it’s too late. It’s time for judgment. I say let them in. Get it over quickly. Let America begin to reap what it has sown now in the last 50 years or so.

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Am I saying we should vote for the immigrants or vote for the politicians who have pushed us hence? No. I am not. It is called permissive will. Allow them to sin, but have no part of it.

Dream from March 28, 2004

I was going over some old emails, actually looking for some specific information, and accidentally ran across a dream I had emailed someone. This dream occurred somewhere around Sunday, March 28, 2004 4:24 AM. In hind site I can see it was a dream forth telling the future of the Oklahoma city meeting on 4/23/05. 11 months prior to the meeting! Here is the dream:

I was away, actually traveling to different cities in America doing business, can’t remember the details, possibly building towers…. But as I was in one location, with a group of people, one of them told me to look at someone entering a school. The school happened to be the same school I went to as a youth, and there entering it was several people including Randy Shankle. I began asking what was going on there, it looked very sober or formal. I was told that there was a church trial going on over Randy. That pastors across the country were invited to come and testify and judge Randy. I immediately left what I was doing to go inside and see.
 
Once inside I saw it was taking place at some bleachers. As I was looking for a place to sit I saw my current pastor in the stands. And went to sit next to him. By the way, this was for ministers only, but I felt compelled to go.
 
I told my pastor, “Why didn’t you tell me that this was gonna happen?”. He replied, “I didn’t want you to go, and knew you would.” I knew that my pastor would be fair but critical of Randy. I sat down ready to speak my mind on Randy, neutral, ready to accuse or defend him, depending on what others had to say. Randy never said anything in my dream and do not remember any thing else.

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If you don’t know about this meeting, here is a link about the end result:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/meeting.html