10 Virgins & the Oil

Randy preached again about end times, he once again spoke about how the church is not the bride of Christ. Then he spent some time on the parable of the 10 virgins with the oil. This parable is used often by many on the rapture. And like many he preached a partial rapture saying half the church will be left behind. This is all correct. However, he stated that all the virgins were born again and spirit filled. This is NOT correct.

 Math 25: MKJV 
1 Then shall the kingdom of Heaven be likened to ten virgins, who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 
2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 
3 The foolish ones took their lamps, but took no oil with them. 
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 

You can see that 5 had extra oil and the other 5 did not. Randy is claiming that the missed oil is a lack seeking God and a lack of walking in the Holy Spirit. But there is a problem with that theology. How much seeking God and how much walking in the Spirit is enough? If this were true, and it is not, then someone will barely have enough to be raptured, and someone would barely miss it. What would be the defining difference between those 2 people on the extreme ends of those lists? Also what comes about in this thought process is works. Obviously those who seek God and work out their walk in the Holy Spirit manifest more of God. But is God going to determine a rapture based on works? And once again how much works?

Therefore that understanding is flawed. Not that I disbelieve in works which generates more fruit of the Spirit, because it does. But I see no scripture on what the line exactly is in how much work is needed for salvation or for a rapture. The only reward I have seen in scripture for works are crowns, and other heavenly rewards.

No. Therefore what is the extra oil? It can only be one of 2 other things. Either it’s the born again experience as opposed to the basic salvation (perhaps similar to Randy’s message in his book and teaching: Believers vs Disciples) or it is the difference between regeneration and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

I have yet to determine with certainty which it is, but I lean toward the 1st, because the 2nd has a degree of works involved sometimes, or perhaps better described as a reaching/asking, because many people have a hard time getting the baptism of the Holy Spirit to manifest in their life. But the Born Again experience is completely out of one’s own hands except for the simple fact of asking and believing, and the fruit thereof is instant and is seen by faith, whereas the other manifests in tongues or some other gift, which sometimes takes time or effort to manifest, though not necessary.

By making the oil to represent crossing spiritual Jordan, makes it into a non work reward. Thus the rapture is not earned but is given by grace. Not all believers are born again. And the rapture perfectly fits in line with the message of crossing spiritual Jordan. Just as being conceived is different than being born, so is believing different than being born again.

I go into more detail of the 2 anointings of the Holy Spirit here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/oil.html

and the differences between believing and being born again here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/bvb.html

It was several years ago reading Watchman Nee that I saw him explain about the extra oil. Although not as indepth as I have it here. Sadly when I reached my conclusion on a partial rapture I discovered that many who preach a partial rapture (which is very unpopular in America), preached one based on works. I see this as faulty because it goes against the grain of the gospel and does not flow with scripture. But the comprehension and understanding of scripture come alive in the light of the understanding I share here, similar to what Randy spoke about in his deliverance from the Babylonian idea of church government and who the bride of Christ is.

While I find it difficult to believe God may not rapture christians who are not tongue talkers or those who manifest the baptism of the Holy Spirit, I find this to be a possibility. I have to be intellectually honest and pose this possibility, though I find it less likely, because the theology of crossing a spiritual Jordan with the rapture to be more in line theologically. Because if you study the Temple/Tabernacle furniture with the different workings of God, you will note that salvation occurs at the Brazen Altar, the Born Again experience at the Laver and the baptism of the Holy Spirit at the Candlestick. Thus water baptism and the crossing of Jordan work well theologically with the doctrine of the rapture and works with the idea of a rapture based on works rather than grace. All the outer court work was done by Jesus and is manifested by faith, and we must seek out the other works of God in the Holy Place and the Holy of Holies. Thus to cross over into the Holy Place, one must use the laver. To get into that door, one must 1st use the laver, not the candlestick. In fact the candlestick is on the other side of the door inside the temple, while the laver is outside. So why would Jesus require something inside to get in, when you get it when you are already inside? Now look at this scripture from Revelation:

Rv:11:2: But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles…

So what is Jesus leaving without? Those who are in the Outer Court. Those who have not crossed the laver/spiritual Jordan. Those who remain in the womb of the church and have not been born again and entered in, independently from their mother, but not based on works but that of grace. For when a baby comes out of the womb, did it work? No, the doctor and the mother work, not the child. Thus being born again is a work of the church in discipling those in it’s womb to go from believing into being born again, or from conception into birth. They are still children of God, but do not know the Father because they are still in the womb.

My pages on a partial rapture:

The Rapture:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/rapture.html

Are you prepared for the blessed hope?:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/prepare.html

The 2 1/2 tribes that didn’t cross over:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/two.html

The Great Apostacy:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/apostasy.html

Uncharted Territory?

Randy has entered into areas he never touched before, in fact I was led to believe the administration never touched Revelation and end time stuff before. I even speak about his refusal to teach from revelation I think on my website! And today he taught from it! He did many unexpected things. I could believe he did this while I was away, but his comments sound like he has recently changed his views on such things. Now while I may comment on some of this positive stuff, this does not legitimize his ministry as I have kept saying. And he also taught something 1 or 2 weeks ago which I think is heresy. He taught the gap theory and that angels or lucifer ruled the world for thousands of years before Adam. Here is what I wrote them on some of this:

Satan fell after day 6, see here:

Gen 1:
31: And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.  And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

How can satan have fallen before day 6 and God call it good?

Some believe that there were beings on the earth before Adam was created. They use what is called the gap theory. They believe there is a gap of time in Genesis chapter one where it says: 

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2  Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 

They say that in verse 2 that there is a destruction of the earth. Some people believe that Lucifer ruled the first earth (verse 1) with dinosaurs. Some also believe that there were people there (before Adam). They use the following scriptures to believe this: 

Jer 4:23 I looked at the earth, and it was formless and empty; and at the heavens, and their light was gone. 24 I looked at the mountains, and they were quaking; all the hills were swaying. 25 I looked, and there were no people; every bird in the sky had flown away. 26 I looked, and the fruitful land was a desert; all its towns lay in ruins before the LORD, before his fierce anger. 

I will now show that these interpretations are wrong. They fail to look at verse 27: 

JER 4:27 This is what the LORD says:  “The whole land will be ruined, though I will not destroy it completely.”

They believe that Jer 4:23 and Gen 1:2,  mean complete destruction. But, verse 27 says that not all will be destroyed. Verse 27 is connected to 23, so what is this saying? Jer 4:23-27 is not describing what happened between Gen 1:1-3, but what happened from the flood of Noah. The gap theory would tell us there was a complete destruction of the 1st creation, but the verses they use say there was not a complete destruction. So what do those verses in Jeremiah point to? 

Noah’s flood was disastrous, but it didn’t destroy everything. The fish survived and so on. The formless and empty in verse Gen 1:2 are just that, formless and empty time and space. Before there was any creation it was formless and empty. Those two verses are not connected to mean the same.

How can there be death and corruption in creation without Adam’s sin? There was no dinosaur age. Romans tells us the creation is groaning because of Adam’s sin.

The water on the earth was only a day or 2. And man was created after that. The dinosaurs died in the flood.

There is science behind a young earth theology. 

(2nd email)

Randy is basing his idea on this theology on one scripture in Job saying the water was frozen.

That is bad doctrine when you have to ignore other scriptures which I gave in my last email. There could be 2 reasons for this

Genesis says the water was separated and some water was in the heavens. The earth was surrounded by water in space. There was a globe of ice around the earth. This produced a atmosphere that was wonderful to life. When the flood came the gates of this ice was opened up and melted.

Of coarse there could be other explanation as it could have been both as scripture speaks about Judas hanging himself and bursting forth. Perhaps in the 6 days before Adam, there was both ice and water. There wasn’t a sun until day 4, and perhaps ice melted then.

Why can’t Randy take God’s word as He has it that the creation was 6 days?

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I haven’t fully covered some of the bad teaching Randy shared, just corrected most of it in the emails to them/him.

He has admitted to entering a new period of going against traditional teachings, which is good if it’s sound Biblicaly. And some of what he shared today was great.

Here is what astonished me:

1. Randy taught from Revelation, using it for doctrine

2. Randy taught a pre-trib rapture

3. Randy appeared to teach about a literal coming anti-christ

4. Randy even taught me a couple of new things I never saw before and I believe him!

Warning, again, this does NOT validate his ministry. He should take these revelations to support another legitimate ministry while he under goes correction and repentance.

I will share an email I sent out today explaining some of what Randy taught today:

His main focus was that before the Lord must come 1st there must be an apostasy and the coming of the anti-christ. But before these 2 things happen, something must be taken away which hinders sin and the coming anti-christ. he said only 3 things do this:

1. government authority
2. the Holy Spirit
3. the church

He said we know that God is not removing government authorities, since they will still exist even in the corrupted anti-christ government and perhaps other nations. He also spoke how Jesus promised the Holy Spirit would never leave us. He did not speak, but I have noted that the Holy Spirit must be present if there are Christians during the tribulation who are being martyred and persecuted. Therefore it is the church (the preserving church) which must be removed.  He did not speak about a partial rapture, nor elude to it.

Randy did list the 7 Biblical raptures which I never noted before:

Jesus &  OT saints

us  at His coming

144,000

multitude during the tribulation

2 witnesses in Jerusalem in revelations

Enoch

Elijah

And Randy preached that the rapture is an escape and said he found 15-16 scriptures on the escape, which he said he resisted before. Many non pre-trib rapturists resist the idea of an escape. Yet the angels offered an escape to Lot,  God to Noah and so on.

He also showed me for the 1st time that the church is not the bride of Christ. And that the bride of Christ is new Jerusalem, which is made up of christian gentiles and believing Jews. He also showed how that the church is male and not female.

Eph 4:
13: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man … (masculine)

Rev 21:
9: And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.
10: And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

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You see Randy still hears from God, it’s just a matter of him obeying God and listening to everything God has for him. God grants us alot of grace, and when we even blow it big time, if we allow Him to lead us in some areas and not others, even as Jacob did with God, God will take what He can get.

Here are some links to my website on the rapture:

The Rapture -  http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/rapture.html

Are you prepared for the Blessed  Hope? – http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/prepare.html

Oil & the Holy Spirit: the 2 annointings – http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/oil.html

The 2 1/2 Tribes that didn’t Cross Over – http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/two.html

The Great Apostacy – http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/apostasy.html

The Latter Rain/Reign – http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/latter.html