Randy Shankle False Prophet page

I put up a new page, so it is more permanent than the post I made at the end of last year, concerning Randy being a false prophet.  See here:

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/randy-shankle-false-prophet/

The Perfect Will of God

Folks don’t realize how many times I have attempted to write this article. It is extremely difficult. I have written it many times in many ways and then deleted it.

The difficulties are many faceted.

One reason is some folks think I believe I think I am perfect myself. I can guarantee you I know there is error on this blog, I speak alot of opinion here. And am quite certain there is even error on my website where I teach doctrines and theology. And as I discuss elsewhere where Paul and James both discuss the dangers of being a doma minister because of the responsibility and judgment we/they will face when we/they err. But yet Paul also stated that we see darkly.

Christianity is about faith not absolutes. I discuss this on my tenet page:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/tenet.html

Focus:

1 Cor 9:25: MKJV
25 And everyone who strives for the mastery is temperate in all things. Then those truly that they may receive a corruptible crown, but we an incorruptible.

God has called me to be a balance. I try not to minister in extremes. I try to filter all my doctrine and teaching through this principle. 

It is my belief, that the people and church of God, in some capacity, in most cases, seek after His truth. During the coarse of history the church became divided. It is my belief, that you can find pieces of truth from perhaps every denomination and movement of God. I like to say, “A broken clock is right twice a day.”  Therefore, I try to even see where God has used those people whom I even disagree with. It is the pride of man that often separates men, and keeps them from seeing the work of God in others. Perhaps, how I have dealt with my greatest spiritual father, Watchman Nee, is a good example of separating out what he mixed into God’s revelations. Watchman Nee was a very balanced teacher, except when it came to entertainment. He condemns any entertainment that has any chance involved. He believes entertainment or games should have skill only. He even condemned the mixture of skill and chance. Any game with cards or dice, he would condemn. Playing games like UNO or even children’s games like CandyLand, would be wrong. Why did he take this stance? Because his own mother was addicted to gambling. From the great pain of gambling, he failed to see a balance in entertainment. Therefore, I take out his imbalances. I have done the same from other ministers; Randy Shankle, Kenneth Hagin, and so on. I have even gleaned truth from the Catholic church which protestants don’t even teach about; the fiery judgment on unfaithful believers:  Click here

Many christians are so quick to judge and condemn, but if we repent of pride, we can easily glean truth from people who have missed God in some part. 

On the other side of the scale, we ought not to stand on truth just because others we agree with, believe it. We shouldn’t build doctrine from tradition, nor refuse to listen to other doctrines because we or our group do not. Doctrines should be based on scripture alone…

Everything I teach and believe is by faith. God made it so that we need the church and ministers to teach us doctrine. The Bible is not meant to be a handi-book of easy to read doctrines. The doctrines must be dug out and taught. For this reason, ministers will receive a stricter judgment. While many of my beliefs are accepted thru most of christendom and many of my more “rare” teachings are from a handful of ministers, I have gleaned many truths from many different sources. One of my favorite sayings is “a broken clock is right 2 times a day”. One of the baptisms in the Bible is called the Baptism into the Cloud (1 Cor 10:2). This baptism is God’s calling the church to follow after Him. This is often results in the restoration of doctrine and theology. The Reformation is a prime example of this. What often happens tho, is man follows God to a lost truth then makes a camp there, refusing to follow God further. We can glean truths from such stale camps, but should continue to follow God ourselves.

Isa 28:10: For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

1 Cor 13:12: For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

1 Cor 2: LITV

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That being said there are also another group which thinks that I think I am perfect (and most others in the church) and those are they who have fallen from grace, perhaps hurt by spiritual abuse. They have fallen into sin, and don’t trust any standard, may hate God, distrust the Bible, or something to this sort.

These folks don’t have hope, and anyone who is holding onto hope and striving towards a standard offends them.

There are things I simply don’t know. for example I believe in a partial rapture, but am uncertain what the qualifying necessity is, whether is being born again (as opposed and being different than being saved, see here: http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/bvb.html or whether is being baptized in the Holy Spirit).

Then again, I also may not have all the details and truth about the differences between being born again and saved, nor fully understand the difference between the 1st baptism and the 2nd. Since as Paul said we see darkly.

Which leads me toward the point of this article. Another reason why we fail to reach god’s perfect is because of the fallen state of the church, as well as our own sin nature.

In the 1900’s many books were written especially in the early 1900’s about how Rome is Babylon and how it has corrupted even the protestant faiths.

While there is some truth to this, it hits it at the wrong angle. Jesus saw the failure of the church before even Scripture was complete. You can see this by reading the 1st 3 chapters of Revelation. Also a careful reading of the Old Testament will show you how the end time shepherds will fail.

Hence while I believe pastor Bruce Delay is awesome and the best pastor I know of, he still is an end time shepherd and is missing it. But we all are.

I discuss in more detail how I believe that those who are not raptured will out do us who will be raptured here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/two.html

and somewhat here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/latter.html

We will not be the 1st in God’s kingdom, we have not entered into the perfect:

Math 20: MKJV  
8 So when evening had come, the lord of the vineyard said to his steward, Call the laborers and pay them their wage, beginning from the last to the first.  
10 But when the first came, they supposed that they would received more; and they also each one received a denarius.  
11 And receiving it they murmured against the master of the house,  
12 saying, These last have worked only one hour, and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden and heat of the day.  
13 But he answered one of them andsaid, Friend, I do you no wrong. Did you not agree with me for a denarius?  
14 Take yours, and go; I will give to this last one the same as to you.  
16 So the last shall be first, and the first last, for many are called, but few are chosen.  

Rev 14:13 And I heard a voice from Heaven saying to me, Write, Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on. Yes, says the Spirit, they shall rest from their labors, and their works follow them.

Even Randy Shankle and others prophesy the latter house will be greater. But they get it wrong, they think it’s their ministry when its the church!

And Bruce DeLay thinks my desire to reach and inspire those afterward is a hidden agenda to be uncorrectable because my fruit can’t be judged. This is an example of how click mentality and denomonationalism, or even Babylon has affected the church!

While many of us are pleasing God, we are not walking in His perfect will. Let me go ahead and say it. God’s perfect will for me was to be single. But God hates divorce. And some folks hate me and despise me, because I refuse to divorce my wife, because they won’t submit to a standard. But, that doesn’t give me the right to judge and condemn those who have divorced, because none of us, including me are in God’s perfect will. However, I do not endorse divorce, and I promote God’s will. But I am not gonna sit and judge folks who have been divorced.

For the longest time I wondered how I could obtain God’s perfect will. If we are on a path, should we abruptly change our path to God’s path in a violent manner? For me this question has been especially strong because I disobeyed God and joined the Navy. I went AWOL, turned myself in and was court martialed. Miraculously I was found not guilty. Another long discussion.

But I have been asking myself for 15 years, was it God for me to go AWOL or not?

Finally about a couple weeks ago, the Holy Spirit gave me some revelation on the subject. The disciples were on their paths doing what they were doing when Jesus interrupted their lives and changed their courses. He even manifested fishing miracles to pay their debts before they followed Him.

And this is what Jesus did for me with the Navy. Sorta like what Aslan did for Edmund in “The Lion, Witch, and the Wardrobe” as well.

I had no plans to go AWOL. One nite I had a dream I went to the Church in Marshall andRandy Shankle wearing a robe with a medallion cast out 2 demons from me. I had never seen Randy in real life. I woke up to a knock on my dorm door, and had a call that informed me my stepdad had died. I was in Japan. I proceeded to fill out paper work to go home for the funeral also believing that once I was State side the authorities there would help me leave the Navy as I was convinced those in Japan were withholding legal methods from me.

I had to get permission of all my superior officers, about 4-5 levels up. All agreed I could go but the last said no. It was then I decided to leave Japan AWOL, without any previous plan to do so.

To shorten my tale which you can read here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/testimony.html

I ended up at the Church in Marshall, and the 2nd Sunday there, I saw Randy for the 1st time. He was doing a wedding and was wearing a robe and a medallion as in my dream.

It took an encounter from Christ to get me onto God’s will. And Jesus paid the cost of my missing His will by declaring me not guilty in court, as He also filled the disciples nets with fish!

I can’t leave my wife and family. But if God were to intervene Himself, then I would follow. But we are stuck to God’s acceptable will due to the state of the church, the world, our souls, and sin nature.

But are we like David, and willing to admit our sins, or are we gonna be like the end time shepherds thinking we have it all?

We all are missing it. But are we striving for God’s will? Are we lieing and thinking we have arrived? That is what matters.

The salvation of the soul is a process, and unfortunately most of humanity will not reach 100 fold. But we shouldn’t give up and throw in the towel, and condemn those who are trying to reach the standard.

No church, no denomination, no man has it all. That’s why I look to many sources to write my teachings on doctrine as stated  earlier from here:

http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/tenet.html

Yet even the doctrine of the rapture has the church divided. Most use the newer stance that since the church fathers were quiet on a pre-trib rapture it mustn’t be true. Truth was not absolute to the church fathers even when Paul said he saw darkly. Peter said, and I got this from Watchman Nee, that revelation about the salvation of the soul would increase in the last days:

1 Pet 1:

5: Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
9: Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

Also OT prophets hinted at last day revelations, so did Sir Isaac Newton. I even got from Randy Shankle and Kenneth Hagin that just as the gifts decreased from the Acts and the Apostles, they would increase in the last days.

This comes from unity, realizing that we all have a piece of the whole. It’s an act of humility to see that even denominations who we oppose, or that oppose us may have revelation or truth we miss.

It bothers me horribly that I cannot finish teaching the foundational principles on my website. I got the 1st 3 down well. But am seriously lacking in laying on of hands and of resurrection of the dead. But believe I have some revelation on Eternal Judgment that is new.

I simply don’t have it all. And I can’t. I also lack in the evangelical giftings. While I make up a bit in being a reasonably good example to others, I am lacking strength in proclaiming the gospel of salvation to the lost. It takes all of us to achieve the perfect. And when we reject body members, we can’t achieve perfection.

The point here? Well as I have stated to Bruce and others before, a major focus of mine, is to inspire those left behind after the rapture. That they can achieve what we could not. But it is also to inspire all of us to go a little further, including me.

Randy Shankle & South Africa

As discussed in my previous post, Randy Shankle is on his way to South Africa soon. I am writing this post to bring a warning to the people of South Africa and to ask christians to pray for them. And perhaps there will be people in South Africa available to resist him.

It was in the Oct 2008 meetings that Randy spoke about his coming visit to South Africa. And the following clip exposes his intended purpose to to destroy churches there. I originally uncovered this here:

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/the-1st-2-october-meetings/

Here is the clip:

In my last post, I posted what I initially wrote and made further comments:

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/2009/03/10/whats-up-with-my-silence/

Warning to South Africa!

Randy is going to South Africa again, and is planning to destroy more churches there…

…You see, he thinks he has the right to destroy in the name of God. Let’s say that he does find some churches out of order in South Africa. Is he supposed to rip them apart from the top down like the gentiles? Or is he supposed to teach them in meekness from the bottom up, so they can change themselves?

Mark 10:42: But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.

1 Cor 4:21: What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?

Gal 6:1: Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

2 Tim 2:25: In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

Titus 3:2: To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

James 3:13: Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

If others operated like Randy did, then someone would come and sit Randy down by force. I wonder how well he would handle that? Oh, that’s right he disowned Clarence Hill Sr. and others he had submitted to when they brought correction!

Randy is a hypocrite!

Randy has gone to Africa before and wrecked havoc. Calling a minister’s wife a vessel of Jezebel or satan, causing divorces, family break ups, and church splits.

Now he is planning to do the same again!

WATCH OUT SOUTH AFRICA!

One of Randy’s favorite authors speaks about this subject. Watchman Nee talks about ministers going to other countries and causing problems. Local authorities should be involved in this matter, and all should be done in meekness from the bottom up, not the top down.

Some may note that this whole stance by Nee was the inspiration of the local church movement, some of which is extreme, but there is a relevant truth to some of it, but the point being Randy is missing even the concerns of Nee on this.

When Paul saw that the elders in Jerusalem were in error about making Gentiles submit to Jewish law and custom, did he go in there and remove authorities? No, in fact he submitted to their idea even though that idea did not seem to come down to us as a Biblical standard to follow. That was, a list of don’ts for Gentiles to follow. Do the churches today follow any such list? Did Paul preach that list elsewhere? Not that we know of. But he still submitted to the church authorities and didn’t cause any major divisions.

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I am hoping those in authority in South Africa will refuse to give place to Randy. And those who know about the dangerous and ungodly manner Randy intends will warn those in authority and if needs be oppose and confront him, or even expose him to others. And most importantly anyone concerned pray for the situation.

Pray that Randy finds no place, physically, or in the hearts of the leaders or the people. Pray that no harm be done. Pray that the dark deeds and intentions of Randy be brought to the light. And pray for Randy, that he sees the truth, and repents and obeys God and his word on these matters.

What’s Up with my Silence?

Folks are probably wondering why I have been silent about Randy and CiM so long (since New Years or so), probably to the delight of CiM elders.  It’s long and complicated and will try and explain some of it here, and why I decided to poke my nose out here for this again.

Why am I writing here again now? 2 reasons. 2 stirrings occurred almost simultaneously. One is a former CiM elder contacted me asking me to remove quotes from him, believing that those quotes from the ex-CiM members forum were enough.

He has been trying to distance himself from Randy, CiM for a long while now. But maintains that the work he did before was of God (that of exposing Randy).  So he doesn’t want to dis it nor make it disappear. He also doesn’t want folks thinking we are working in ministry together, and we are not. However as noted by Maurice a few months ago, this ex-elder and me have reached 1000’s about the dangers of Randy Shankle and CiM. And the ex-elder agrees with Maurice’s statement.

When the ex-elder discovered that the forum was not accessible to the unknowing, and since he didn’t want to link to it himself, he relented on the quotes, believing they are a valid tool.

The 2nd reason I am writing again, is a report has come to me that someone in CiM has a brain tumour and Randy is soon to leave for South Africa again.

I stated many times in 2008 and perhaps earlier, the time has come that it is a danger to be in CiM. Many people are getting serious ailments, and some are dieing, more than the norm.

Those of you still in the Church in Marshall should flee for your lives and health, especially those of you with family and children!

Rather than rewrite what I already said on South Africa, I will just repost from the time I discovered Randy was headed back to South Africa, and add more comments:

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/the-1st-2-october-meetings/

I also only have 1 clip to share from the Monday morning meeting. And this is a

Warning to South Africa!

Randy is going to South Africa again, and is planning to destroy more churches there. Listen here:

You see, he thinks he has the right to destroy in the name of God. Let’s say that he does find some churches out of order in South Africa. Is he supposed to rip them apart from the top down like the gentiles? Or is he supposed to teach them in meekness from the bottom up, so they can change themselves?

Mark 10:42: But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.

1 Cor 4:21: What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?

Gal 6:1: Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

2 Tim 2:25: In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

Titus 3:2: To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

James 3:13: Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

If others operated like Randy did, then someone would come and sit Randy down by force. I wonder how well he would handle that? Oh, that’s right he disowned Clarence Hill Sr. and others he had submitted to when they brought correction!

(Randy is a hypocrite!)

Randy has gone to Africa before and wrecked havoc. Calling a minister’s wife a vessel of Jezebel or satan, causing divorces, family break ups, and church splits.

Now he is planning to do the same again!

WATCH OUT SOUTH AFRICA!

One of Randy’s favorite authors speaks about this subject. Watchman Nee talks about ministers going to other countries and causing problems. Local authorities should be involved in this matter, and all should be done in meekness from the bottom up, not the top down.

(Some may note that this whole stance by Nee was the inspiration of the local church movement, some of which is extreme, but there is a relevant truth to some of it, but the point being Randy is missing even the wisdom of Nee on this)

When Paul saw that the elders in Jerusalem were in error about making Gentiles submit to Jewish law and custom, did he go in there and remove authorities? No, in fact he submitted to their idea even though that idea did not seem to come down to us as a Biblical standard to follow. That was, a list of don’ts for Gentiles to follow. Do the churches today follow any such list? Did Paul preach that list elsewhere? Not that we know of. But he still submitted to the church authorities and didn’t cause any major divisions.

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So this is why I am speaking out again. Which leads me to why I was silent. While CiM may have rejoiced I was quiet, their joy was only self deception. While it may be true that further commentary of their services and doings may be helpful, I have enough content and witness no further action is required. Some folks may want me to continue, I believe such would help those already in CiM, but I believe that my comments from 2008 show with strong evidence that Randy Shankle is a false prophet. See here:

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/randy-shankle-is-a-false-prophet/

That should be sufficient evidence, enough with all the rest I have, for current CiM members to see his error. As well as the fruit of the ailments in the church.

But why did I stop?

At one point it was sufficient enough for CiM to simply claim my commentaries were lies.

In the above clip Jeff goes on about how I represent the father of lies (satan). You can hear other clips where Randy and Jeff speak about how I lie here:

http://kingdomgospel.wordpress.com/audio-clips/

The whole thing caused a current member (at the time) to email me (and attempt to leave comments on this blog) demanding I stop telling lies, Jerry Iverson was his name. I published some of his accusations, and then gave evidence to my comments by quoting Randy and Jeff. And that’s what I began to do. I began posting clips from them, so people can hear with their own ears the errors of Randy and CiM. This infuriated Randy, and hence why he called me his nemisis. You can hear that at the link above as well.

Seeing how effective I was, they 1st changed their entire website to have more control over who watches their broadcasts. This was a huge financial cost. Jerry Iverson stated that this change would stop me. It didn’t for awhile.

This made matters worse for CiM. Eventually they had to post someone in full time work scanning for my presence when watching their broadcasts to ban me, because their software programs were not doing it.

This occurred at the New Years meetings. They were so intimidated by my presence they stopped all new accounts from being activated by anyone with Gmail accounts! And they began banning everyone using anonmous surfing software. They did this because they couldn’t track me specifically.

I knew that that day would come. I spoke about it years earlier on the ex-CiM members forum and on this blog as well. But that day did not mean God was done, nor did it mean CiM was successful. Because I was able to gather all the evidence necessary before this to show Randy’s error and him being a false prophet.

They even emailed me a threat to take legal action, and that’s why I did my homework and posted the legality of what I am doing on the link I gave above.

They may come forward and state I lied and deceived them in my attempts. I did indeed try to deceive them but I never lied. I wrote an email stating I had a hostile spouse who didn’t want me to watch CiM services and was using anonymous software to be more hidden in doing so. And that email is true. Some of which I have discussed here on this blog. Especially when I state that like Randy, I am unqualified as an elder because of my marriage. Though he is unqualified for other reasons, anyways not gonna chase that rabbit here, you can read more about that elsewhere.

Suffice it to say I knew before sending that email, it could be the straw that breaks the back. I even corresponded with someone before hand asking their opinion. Also stating that using such a soulish maneuver may not provide any true answers. And I was right. But I also maintained I would not cover this and would speak about it openly, and so I am.

This brings me to another very important point. In Randy’s Merismos book and teachings, he discusses what the difference is between someone in the spirit and in the soul. They booth may operate in the same manners and same ministries, at least for a season.

And I saw this coming. I knew that there was a season I was to go “tit for tat” with CiM in my commentaries. But to do so forever would remain soulish.

I knew the day would come,  if I went any further it would be in the flesh. The heart, as the Merismos speaks about is where the spirit and flesh meet. Thus in the heart one can operate in soul or spirit. If I were to continue at such a point, it would be evidenced by me having to work and that work would produce sweat and would be hard labour.

In fact I could continue but it would cost me financially and would be a lot of work. That is evidence that the time to stop is at hand. And evidence that CiMcontinued in the flesh. They decided to spend the money and the man hours to stop me. They probably have spent thousands of dollars in this effort. While true this money spent can be used for other reasons,  such as more control over their broadcasts. That cost has hurt them tremendously. They have even asked folks to pay to watch the SoP classes. Which by the way, Randy stated would be available for free. I have that recorded somewhere but haven’t made the clip available yet.

CiM has done the same as the financial crisis of America, they have spent too much money! Much of that reason was to stop me.

More fruit and evidence that the rulership of Randy is not of God.

C’mon CiM members wake up!

So here I am. I have stated to persons interested I may try and watch more CiM broadcasts in the future. But I am not gonna bend over backwards to do so. That would be evidence I was in the flesh. If I can suceed without sweat, then I know I am okay. But right now, I am done, and have other things on my plate.

I do have some audio I still have to sort thru, and some clips may come out of that, as stated above. But there isn’t much and nothing too important. Perhaps a couple months down the road I may publish some clips and try watching services again. But there is no promise or certainty in that. But I have ears and eyes out there. And get reports of doings going on. And will make such available here when needs be.